LOST: more on "the pregnancy problem"
May. 2nd, 2007 02:16 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
stefanie_beanIn the "D.O.C." discussion, TK 421 writes:
I think the beach is a safe place to conceive, too. I'm personally not convinced that Juliet is right in applying her Other experience to the beach camp.
As far as permanent dwellings, do they really need them? What for? They aren't suffering from cold, or even the wet. If a typhoon comes along, it will tear everything up that's more solidly built (go watch the scene in the movie "Hawaii" when the big wind comes and tears up the Presbyterian church, while leaving the more open and "primitive" dwellings alone.)
They're still eating dharma food, but is that even necessary? The Island seems to be able to provide the basics of life - fish, eggs, fruit, vegetables, shellfish, water. At least some people seem to be able to move through the jungle unmolested.
I'm racking my brain, and the "id /smoke monster" seems to come when there's a conflict - strong emotion - selfish or dangerous behavior. It's almost like a discipline. (And what DID that pilot do to merit being thrown into the tree, almost torn to pieces?)
I agree that exploration is something I'd like to see more of, too, but I can understand why the Losties are afraid of "Smoky," and that it might in some way be "herding" them (or at least some of them) onto the beach.
What I think would be more psychologically difficult than anything else is knowing that everyone "outside" thinks you're dead. Children will mourn you; spouses will remarry; your possessions will get distributed. (Hurley's parents will inherit a HUGE amount of money.) Were someone to return after all that, think of the emotional and legal messes that would result. That's got to prey on people - yet we never hear the Losties speculate on what their friends and relatives and family are doing in their absence.
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Elsewhere, reference is made to the "plagues of Egypt," and BlackLotus writes:
I'm wondering if the reproductive problems are like the curse that smote the firstborn of Egypt, but "passed over" the Children of Israel. Even before the curse, the Israelites were blessed with greater than average fertility.
It was a pillar of cloud, and a pillar of fire that led them out of Egypt, and yes, Jacob was the father of the 12 tribes.
There is an enormous amount of religious imagery in LOST - which isn't surprising, if it really was influenced by Stephen King's "The Stand." It's not as explicit as The Stand, but IMO it's there, and I would like to see a "faith level" maintained in the story.
After reviewing the Blast Door Map a little more, I think the beach might actually be the safest place on the island. So safe it seems it was considered to be a viable Dharma employee recreation area with nice flora/fauna for research. Who knows, maybe it's even a safe place to concieve? (thinking out loud here) ...
Who knows, maybe the island doesn't want the Others to conceive since they are "Cheating" as Locke said.
I think the beach is a safe place to conceive, too. I'm personally not convinced that Juliet is right in applying her Other experience to the beach camp.
As far as permanent dwellings, do they really need them? What for? They aren't suffering from cold, or even the wet. If a typhoon comes along, it will tear everything up that's more solidly built (go watch the scene in the movie "Hawaii" when the big wind comes and tears up the Presbyterian church, while leaving the more open and "primitive" dwellings alone.)
They're still eating dharma food, but is that even necessary? The Island seems to be able to provide the basics of life - fish, eggs, fruit, vegetables, shellfish, water. At least some people seem to be able to move through the jungle unmolested.
I'm racking my brain, and the "id /smoke monster" seems to come when there's a conflict - strong emotion - selfish or dangerous behavior. It's almost like a discipline. (And what DID that pilot do to merit being thrown into the tree, almost torn to pieces?)
I agree that exploration is something I'd like to see more of, too, but I can understand why the Losties are afraid of "Smoky," and that it might in some way be "herding" them (or at least some of them) onto the beach.
What I think would be more psychologically difficult than anything else is knowing that everyone "outside" thinks you're dead. Children will mourn you; spouses will remarry; your possessions will get distributed. (Hurley's parents will inherit a HUGE amount of money.) Were someone to return after all that, think of the emotional and legal messes that would result. That's got to prey on people - yet we never hear the Losties speculate on what their friends and relatives and family are doing in their absence.
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Elsewhere, reference is made to the "plagues of Egypt," and BlackLotus writes:
i think that the other's reproduction issues may well be down to some kind of 'curse'.
there is enough religious imagery in lost to make this a plausible theory.
weren't the children of israel led to their deliverance by a column of black smoke ?
wasnt jacob the founding father of the 12 tribes ?
at the end of the day there will probably be a possible scientific answer and a possible faith based one and im on board with this being the faith side of the coin.....
I'm wondering if the reproductive problems are like the curse that smote the firstborn of Egypt, but "passed over" the Children of Israel. Even before the curse, the Israelites were blessed with greater than average fertility.
It was a pillar of cloud, and a pillar of fire that led them out of Egypt, and yes, Jacob was the father of the 12 tribes.
There is an enormous amount of religious imagery in LOST - which isn't surprising, if it really was influenced by Stephen King's "The Stand." It's not as explicit as The Stand, but IMO it's there, and I would like to see a "faith level" maintained in the story.